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I would like to take issue with the assumption in this posting that the director is the person doing the collaborating. Many times, other core staff are the collaborators. Sadly, we often aren’t treated as collaborators properly when it comes to authorship or acknowledgement, but this is a different discussion. Or maybe it isn't , as clients often have the attitude that they are paying for services regardless of our real roles as collaborators. As a member of the staff, and back in the days when I was a director at another institution, I have been directed to bill for my time. Period. But I cannot say I've seen a written policy on this at my current institution. Cheers- Michael Cammer, Sr Research Scientist, DART Microscopy Laboratory NYU Langone Health, 540 First Avenue, SK2 Microscopy Suite, New York, NY 10016 Office: 646-501-0567 Cell: 914-309-3270 <email obscured> http://nyulmc.org/micros http://microscopynotes.com/ Acknowledgement in your publications and presentations of work performed in the Microscopy Core plays a vital role in securing support and the funding necessary to maintain and operate this valuable research resource. For publications that were made possible by work performed in the core, please use the acknowledgement statement “We thank the NYU Langone Microscopy Core for experimental and technical support” and include required grant numbers as listed here http://microscopynotes.com/ilabnyu/acknowledgements2017.pdf Please also consider staff for co-authorship if they played a key role in the study.

-----Original Message----- From: Core Administrators Network Forum <email obscured>> On Behalf Of Julie A Auger Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 11:24 AM To: CAN-CC List <email obscured>> Subject: [core administrators network forum] Collaboration vs Service in core labs [EXTERNAL] Colleagues – Do any of you have an organizational position statement for “collaboration vs services” for your core facilities? I often have informal conversations about this with core directors. As cores in academic institutions play very strong roles in experimental design and data analysis as well as the data generation, advising where to draw the line on collaborations is difficult. How much of that effort is part of the “paid service” and how much is collaboration via intellectual contribution. My conversations often result in a discussion about where the funding is coming from to pay for the director’s effort in the collaboration – and it just doesn’t feel good to resolve such conversations with bureaucratic financial rationale. I’d appreciate any insights any of you have to offer. All the best, Julie ―― View topic https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://list.abrf.org/r/topic/76flWIwkC9AyOj5jSwI6ks__;!!MXfaZl3l!J_87-o7obsuWZsDW6n9gb58e2xQPmxC9MmsC6hEwFRzBexVVnmz_whia4h3WJdCvS6p78kw$ Leave group <email obscured>?Subject=Unsubscribe ------------------------------------------------------------ This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is proprietary, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender by return email and delete the original message. Please note, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The organization accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. =================================