Thanks everyone ... I am looking NOT to immunize with denatured protein, but rather to screen with denatured protein via ELISA. IF I boil the protein we are concerned the protein will fall out of solution, which would be fine for immunization but not coating an ELISA plate. Laura .... With respect to Ni plates ... they are great ... but expensive (10x more than a regular plate). We use them when we want the target to be as native as possible, we have a HIS tag, and we do not have an antibody / tag combo for a sandwich ELISA. I am not at all surprised the ELISA results are different. Binding a well formed protein to plastic will alter it's structure. Had not thought of using it as a screening protocol ... thanks. On 5/25/20, 2:28 PM, "Antibody Discussion Forum on behalf of Bover,Laura" <email obscured> on behalf of <email obscured>> wrote: Hi Frances! Hope you and the group are well and hanging there! Same than Ed. Denatured by boiling and use for injection and coat. Sometimes I alternate injections: boil or not, in case I want to get the two options. One interesting alternative that I found for protein coated directly on the plate (meaning "flat"?) is to use the his tag version of the protein and side by side regular plates and Niquel coated plates (commercial). The first time I asked my technician to do it, he was panicking because although some of the wells showed identical OD, other showed very different and some were negative/positive depending on the plate. So, I use those plates for some projects, not as an alternative but complementary. Laura Bover ________________________________ From: Antibody Discussion Forum <email obscured>> on behalf of Greenfield, Edward A.,Ph.D. <email obscured>> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 8:22 AM To: <email obscured> Subject: [EXT] Re: [ABRF Ab Forum] Denature proteins WARNING: This email originated from outside of MD Anderson. Please validate the sender's email address before clicking on links or attachments as they may not be safe. Hi Frances - The last few projects I have had to make antibodies to native (for FACS) and denatured (for WB) protein I have found immunizing with the protein after boiling it for about 1 minute has been effective for denaturing. The boiled protein can be bound to ELISA plates or used in Dot-Blots. Best, Ed. -----Original Message----- From: Antibody Discussion Forum <email obscured>> On Behalf Of Frances Weis-Garcia Sent: Friday, May 22, 2020 3:09 PM To: ABRF Forum <email obscured>> Subject: [ABRF Ab Forum] Denature proteins External Email - Use Caution Yes. … it’s me again 😉 Looking for a protocol by which to screen denatured proteins. I have a really nicely folded one and would like to see the antibody response against it and a denatured version of it. Anyone have protocol they like. I know an antibody core used to use a Urea protocol but they closed ☹. 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