We use an old HP series II 1090 for a lot of off-line work. The attached
computer is equally old and runs on Windows NT! I have been advised that the
old computer could go out any time, and it would be prudent to have a backup in
place before the failure occurs. Does anyone have in their junk pile one of
the computers that drive the HP 1090 HPLC’s? Alternatively, apart from EBAY,
where might I find such a computer. As always, any and and all advice will be
appreciated.
Kym
Kym Francis Faull, Ph.D.
Director, Pasarow Mass Spectrometry Laboratory
Jane and Terry Semel Institute for Neuroscience and Human Behavior at UCLA
Professor Emeritus on Recall, Department of Psychiatry and Biobehavioral
Sciences
David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA
Telephone: (310) 206 7881 (office)
Telephone: (310) 206 7886 (laboratory)
Facsimile: (310) 206 2161
Electronic mail: <email obscured> <email obscured>>
I am totally going to do a self plug on a chapter I wrote to address this
issue of using virtualization of control computers to extend the life of
legacy instrumentation.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28188538/
We run a lot of our older equipment on newer computers that are running
virtual images of the original control computers.
I have tested the methodology as far back as Windows 2000. I am not sure
if it will work for NT, but a search on the web suggests that other people
have had some success here. The one gotcha will be if the control computer
uses a special interface card to talk to the instrumentation.
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On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 5:36 PM Kym Faull <email obscured>> wrote:
> We use an old HP series II 1090 for a lot of off-line work. The attached
> computer is equally old and runs on Windows NT! I have been advised that
> the old computer could go out any time, and it would be prudent to have a
> backup in place before the failure occurs. Does anyone have in their junk
> pile one of the computers that drive the HP 1090 HPLC’s? Alternatively,
> apart from EBAY, where might I find such a computer. As always, any and
> and all advice will be appreciated.
>
> Kym
>
>
> Kym Francis Faull, Ph.D.
> Director, Pasarow Mass Spectrometry Laboratory
> Jane and Terry Semel Institute for Neuroscience and Human Behavior at UCLA
> Professor Emeritus on Recall, Department of Psychiatry and Biobehavioral
> Sciences
> David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA
> Telephone: (310) 206 7881 (office)
> Telephone: (310) 206 7886 (laboratory)
> Facsimile: (310) 206 2161
> Electronic mail: <email obscured> <email obscured>>
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OK you gave me this advice previously I now remember. i will study your
advice and will probably get back to you
Kym Francis Faull, Ph.D.
Director, Pasarow Mass Spectrometry Laboratory
Jane and Terry Semel Institute for Neuroscience and Human Behavior at UCLA
Professor Emeritus on Recall, Department of Psychiatry and Biobehavioral
Sciences
David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA
Telephone: (310) 206 7881 (office)
Telephone: (310) 206 7886 (laboratory)
Facsimile: (310) 206 2161
Electronic mail: <email obscured> <email obscured>>
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> On May 4, 2022, at 6:24 PM, J K <email obscured>> wrote:
>
> I am totally going to do a self plug on a chapter I wrote to address this
> issue of using virtualization of control computers to extend the life of
> legacy instrumentation.
>
> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28188538/
>
> We run a lot of our older equipment on newer computers that are running
> virtual images of the original control computers.
>
> I have tested the methodology as far back as Windows 2000. I am not sure
> if it will work for NT, but a search on the web suggests that other people
> have had some success here. The one gotcha will be if the control computer
> uses a special interface card to talk to the instrumentation.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 5:36 PM Kym Faull <email obscured>> wrote:
>
>> We use an old HP series II 1090 for a lot of off-line work. The attached
>> computer is equally old and runs on Windows NT! I have been advised that
>> the old computer could go out any time, and it would be prudent to have a
>> backup in place before the failure occurs. Does anyone have in their junk
>> pile one of the computers that drive the HP 1090 HPLC’s? Alternatively,
>> apart from EBAY, where might I find such a computer. As always, any and
>> and all advice will be appreciated.
>>
>> Kym
>>
>>
>> Kym Francis Faull, Ph.D.
>> Director, Pasarow Mass Spectrometry Laboratory
>> Jane and Terry Semel Institute for Neuroscience and Human Behavior at UCLA
>> Professor Emeritus on Recall, Department of Psychiatry and Biobehavioral
>> Sciences
>> David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA
>> Telephone: (310) 206 7881 (office)
>> Telephone: (310) 206 7886 (laboratory)
>> Facsimile: (310) 206 2161
>> Electronic mail: <email obscured> <email obscured>>
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What I don’t understand is this: What if anything should I do now? The
instrument is running fine. Is there something that can/should be done in
advance of the computer failing?
Kym,
Kym Francis Faull, Ph.D.
Director, Pasarow Mass Spectrometry Laboratory
Jane and Terry Semel Institute for Neuroscience and Human Behavior at UCLA
Professor Emeritus on Recall, Department of Psychiatry and Biobehavioral
Sciences
David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA
Telephone: (310) 206 7881 (office)
Telephone: (310) 206 7886 (laboratory)
Facsimile: (310) 206 2161
Electronic mail: <email obscured> <email obscured>>
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> On May 4, 2022, at 6:24 PM, J K <email obscured>> wrote:
>
> I am totally going to do a self plug on a chapter I wrote to address this
> issue of using virtualization of control computers to extend the life of
> legacy instrumentation.
>
> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28188538/
>
> We run a lot of our older equipment on newer computers that are running
> virtual images of the original control computers.
>
> I have tested the methodology as far back as Windows 2000. I am not sure
> if it will work for NT, but a search on the web suggests that other people
> have had some success here. The one gotcha will be if the control computer
> uses a special interface card to talk to the instrumentation.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 5:36 PM Kym Faull <email obscured>> wrote:
>
>> We use an old HP series II 1090 for a lot of off-line work. The attached
>> computer is equally old and runs on Windows NT! I have been advised that
>> the old computer could go out any time, and it would be prudent to have a
>> backup in place before the failure occurs. Does anyone have in their junk
>> pile one of the computers that drive the HP 1090 HPLC’s? Alternatively,
>> apart from EBAY, where might I find such a computer. As always, any and
>> and all advice will be appreciated.
>>
>> Kym
>>
>>
>> Kym Francis Faull, Ph.D.
>> Director, Pasarow Mass Spectrometry Laboratory
>> Jane and Terry Semel Institute for Neuroscience and Human Behavior at UCLA
>> Professor Emeritus on Recall, Department of Psychiatry and Biobehavioral
>> Sciences
>> David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA
>> Telephone: (310) 206 7881 (office)
>> Telephone: (310) 206 7886 (laboratory)
>> Facsimile: (310) 206 2161
>> Electronic mail: <email obscured> <email obscured>>
>>
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My opinion, there could be better.
Number one thing: Get a USB IDE (I assume) HD reader and image the drive
to a file (or another workflow similar....)
Then you can:
* Acquire $100 ebay computer per DA, try to write the image to a different
hard drive and see if it boots
* Try to virtualize based on that image
* Keep it in case the current HD fails so you can just write the data to a
new HD and keep using the same computer
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On Thu, May 5, 2022 at 2:51 PM Kym Faull <email obscured>> wrote:
> What I don’t understand is this: What if anything should I do now? The
> instrument is running fine. Is there something that can/should be done in
> advance of the computer failing?
>
> Kym,
>
> Kym Francis Faull, Ph.D.
> Director, Pasarow Mass Spectrometry Laboratory
> Jane and Terry Semel Institute for Neuroscience and Human Behavior at UCLA
> Professor Emeritus on Recall, Department of Psychiatry and Biobehavioral
> Sciences
> David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA
> Telephone: (310) 206 7881 (office)
> Telephone: (310) 206 7886 (laboratory)
> Facsimile: (310) 206 2161
> Electronic mail: <email obscured> <email obscured>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 4, 2022, at 6:24 PM, J K <email obscured>> wrote:
> >
> > I am totally going to do a self plug on a chapter I wrote to address this
> > issue of using virtualization of control computers to extend the life of
> > legacy instrumentation.
> >
> > https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28188538/
> >
> > We run a lot of our older equipment on newer computers that are running
> > virtual images of the original control computers.
> >
> > I have tested the methodology as far back as Windows 2000. I am not sure
> > if it will work for NT, but a search on the web suggests that other
> people
> > have had some success here. The one gotcha will be if the control
> computer
> > uses a special interface card to talk to the instrumentation.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 5:36 PM Kym Faull <email obscured>> wrote:
> >
> >> We use an old HP series II 1090 for a lot of off-line work. The
> attached
> >> computer is equally old and runs on Windows NT! I have been advised
> that
> >> the old computer could go out any time, and it would be prudent to have
> a
> >> backup in place before the failure occurs. Does anyone have in their
> junk
> >> pile one of the computers that drive the HP 1090 HPLC’s? Alternatively,
> >> apart from EBAY, where might I find such a computer. As always, any and
> >> and all advice will be appreciated.
> >>
> >> Kym
> >>
> >>
> >> Kym Francis Faull, Ph.D.
> >> Director, Pasarow Mass Spectrometry Laboratory
> >> Jane and Terry Semel Institute for Neuroscience and Human Behavior at
> UCLA
> >> Professor Emeritus on Recall, Department of Psychiatry and Biobehavioral
> >> Sciences
> >> David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA
> >> Telephone: (310) 206 7881 (office)
> >> Telephone: (310) 206 7886 (laboratory)
> >> Facsimile: (310) 206 2161
> >> Electronic mail: <email obscured> <email obscured>>
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Guys,
I had a 1090…loved it…but the system would freeze often during a run if your
program contained a 0% A or B.
We always had to start at e.g. 0.1% B or higher…never start at 0 % B. This was
noted bug in the 1090 back then…you can run it manually at 0% (or 100%) but
not during a run. There may have been a fix for this later on by HP…something
about a different fuse being used on one of the PC boards…’ can’t quite recall
that…it was 30 years ago!
Perhaps this is why you are having a problem…I couldn’t see the whole email
thread.
Best,
Dick
> On May 5, 2022, at 5:49 PM, Kym Faull <email obscured>> wrote:
>
> What I don’t understand is this: What if anything should I do now? The
instrument is running fine. Is there something that can/should be done in
advance of the computer failing?
>
> Kym,
>
> Kym Francis Faull, Ph.D.
> Director, Pasarow Mass Spectrometry Laboratory
> Jane and Terry Semel Institute for Neuroscience and Human Behavior at UCLA
> Professor Emeritus on Recall, Department of Psychiatry and Biobehavioral
Sciences
Rest of post
> David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA
> Telephone: (310) 206 7881 (office)
> Telephone: (310) 206 7886 (laboratory)
> Facsimile: (310) 206 2161
> Electronic mail: <email obscured> <email obscured>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> On May 4, 2022, at 6:24 PM, J K <email obscured>> wrote:
>>
>> I am totally going to do a self plug on a chapter I wrote to address this
>> issue of using virtualization of control computers to extend the life of
>> legacy instrumentation.
>>
>> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28188538/
>>
>> We run a lot of our older equipment on newer computers that are running
>> virtual images of the original control computers.
>>
>> I have tested the methodology as far back as Windows 2000. I am not sure
>> if it will work for NT, but a search on the web suggests that other people
>> have had some success here. The one gotcha will be if the control computer
>> uses a special interface card to talk to the instrumentation.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 5:36 PM Kym Faull <email obscured>> wrote:
>>
>>> We use an old HP series II 1090 for a lot of off-line work. The attached
>>> computer is equally old and runs on Windows NT! I have been advised that
>>> the old computer could go out any time, and it would be prudent to have a
>>> backup in place before the failure occurs. Does anyone have in their junk
>>> pile one of the computers that drive the HP 1090 HPLC’s? Alternatively,
>>> apart from EBAY, where might I find such a computer. As always, any and
>>> and all advice will be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Kym
>>>
>>>
>>> Kym Francis Faull, Ph.D.
>>> Director, Pasarow Mass Spectrometry Laboratory
>>> Jane and Terry Semel Institute for Neuroscience and Human Behavior at UCLA
>>> Professor Emeritus on Recall, Department of Psychiatry and Biobehavioral
>>> Sciences
>>> David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA
>>> Telephone: (310) 206 7881 (office)
>>> Telephone: (310) 206 7886 (laboratory)
>>> Facsimile: (310) 206 2161
>>> Electronic mail: <email obscured> <email obscured>>
>>>
>>>
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